Ok, I care passionately about this topic, so please forgive my strong post :-)
I got an interesting comment on one of my blog posts Father's day Frolic 1/2
I got an interesting comment on one of my blog posts Father's day Frolic 1/2
The reader's comment was as follows
I respect the lifestyle that you have with your Master but sometimes it feels as if your views are kind of patriarchal. You always keep citing Indian culture where there is a deep rooted history of the abuse and contempt for women. You have chosen this lifestyle but Indian culture forces all women into it. And it also encourages practices like sati. I hope taking part in this lifestyle does not make you feel worthless and that you consider yourself equal to men and do not believe that men should rule all women and become their bosses like in the ancient societies.
Oh dear God!! Here we go again!
I explained to the reader that far from feeling "worthless", I am extremely happy and feel fulfilled with my "slave" life. I also admitted that I believed in traditional roles for both women and men and completely rejected the assertion that men and women were "equal". This assertion makes absolutely no sense to me personally, since the facts on the ground don't support it even though radical feminism has trumpeted it for several decades. Women and men are different and unequal in so many ways, it is laughable that somebody can even make this claim credibly. God and Evolution have made us different and we have complimentary skills and strengths.
Men have generally been breadwinners, protectors and providers for the family. This has generally made them physically stronger, more dominant and naturally polygamous. Feminists hate hearing this, but it is what it is.
Women on the other hand evolved to nurture and take care of the family. They thus need protection and are naturally hypergamous. These traits were essential for the survival of their children and themselves. This means that women will rarely respect or seek out "meek men" This is why even today, women tend to get attracted towards "dangerous or bad-ass men". God built this into our DNA. A hypergamous woman will usually tire of and/or abandon a man who is not an "alpha" even if he bends over backwards to pacify her. This is built into her DNA, no matter what cultural brainwashing she is subjected to!
The best men, like Swami, have a healthy mix of Alpha and "nice" traits in them and know when to let their women experience them. Swami's alpha traits, excite me sexually and I feel irresistibly drawn to him, but when he needs to, he lets his "nice" side shine and this just makes me completely adore him. It makes me want to be his fuck slut, have his babies, serve him, worship him, do everything I can to make him happy!!! And BTW, all this happened even before we embraced a "Master Slave lifestyle". Three months into our marriage, I knew I was hopelessly hooked. I didn't know why, I didn't even know anything about "BDSM" or "Consensual Slavery" or "D/S",. Swami was never abusive, hardly ever got angry or yelled at me or tyrannize me; just the way he spoke, behaved, carried himself, the skill with which he subtly exerted his domination over me, made my pussy wet for him and my mind fall completely in love with him. And I believe that a lot of the women are like that and have always been like that.
Feminists (they are not really feminists, they are men haters) know all this is true deep down and that is the reason they get mad at submissive women, because these women are defying and exposing the misandry that is deeply entrenched in today's western culture. To divert attention away, these so called feminists characterize the submissive as suffering from some "deep psychological problems". The thought that some woman would embrace and celebrate "a man as the head of household" and submit to him drives them totally up the "proverbial feminist wall". Wasn't feminism supposed to be all about "choices for women?" Can I please please please kiss my husband's feet, kneel before him, cook for him, clean for him, and be his little fuck slut without you pitying and judging me? I don't begrudge you your "I am a single independent woman who doesn't need or want a man" or "I lord over a pussy whipped man" life do I?
The worst part is that now even some men have bought into this drivel. These men that advocate for the "men and women are equal" theory just fail to understand is that, there is something in us women that yearns to just "be taken and dominated" and if a man is unable and/or unwilling to do that, he will just be our "girl friend". This is not to say that all women like to be in a D/S or M/S relationship, but even in a vanilla relationship, if a man does not exhibit alpha traits, most women will not feel attracted to him.
With such different skills, strengths and needs, you cannot swap out one gender for another, or expect that one gender will perform well in another gender's roles. There are obviously exceptions to every rule but exceptions do not disprove the rule! I personally feel that when culture forces men and women to embrace roles that are completely antithetical to our genetic past, we are asking for trouble.
So yes, I strongly believe that Men should be heads of households, and that women should submit to men. I have seen too many cases where violating this precept has brought unhappiness and chaos to marriages and relationships without making either the men or women in such relationships feel fulfilled or satisfied.
Having said that, I also do not advocate that men and women who do not fit or like traditional roles should be ridiculed or frowned upon. So if there is a relationship where a dominant woman and a submissive man form a happy couple, more power to them. I don't believe that these are a majority of relationships but nonetheless, every successful relationship should be celebrated.
All this and more is explored in the following "call in talk show" from Tom Leykis.
Now even Swami rolled his eyes, at some of Tom's comments and language. Swami never addresses women as Bitches, or draws some blanket generalization about "American women" by saying that "he would never date an American woman", or call a woman a "whore" or "dumb broad" outside of sexual play.
As Swami said "The problem with Tom is that in his mind, all his generalizations prove the rule, while any observations on the other side are "exceptions to the rule. That is a pretty weak way to make your point".
But even with all that this program really does address this issue of "Traditional gender roles" in an interesting and entertaining way. Hope you enjoy listening to it.
I know Chutki and I giggled a lot and opened our mouths and our eyes wide in astonishment at some of the conversations :-)
I was even turned on sexually when Tom lit into some of the women in the program and beseeched Swami a few times to pull my hair and set me in my place. That was when Swami smacked me on my ass and left the room!!
I explained to the reader that far from feeling "worthless", I am extremely happy and feel fulfilled with my "slave" life. I also admitted that I believed in traditional roles for both women and men and completely rejected the assertion that men and women were "equal". This assertion makes absolutely no sense to me personally, since the facts on the ground don't support it even though radical feminism has trumpeted it for several decades. Women and men are different and unequal in so many ways, it is laughable that somebody can even make this claim credibly. God and Evolution have made us different and we have complimentary skills and strengths.
Men have generally been breadwinners, protectors and providers for the family. This has generally made them physically stronger, more dominant and naturally polygamous. Feminists hate hearing this, but it is what it is.
Women on the other hand evolved to nurture and take care of the family. They thus need protection and are naturally hypergamous. These traits were essential for the survival of their children and themselves. This means that women will rarely respect or seek out "meek men" This is why even today, women tend to get attracted towards "dangerous or bad-ass men". God built this into our DNA. A hypergamous woman will usually tire of and/or abandon a man who is not an "alpha" even if he bends over backwards to pacify her. This is built into her DNA, no matter what cultural brainwashing she is subjected to!
The best men, like Swami, have a healthy mix of Alpha and "nice" traits in them and know when to let their women experience them. Swami's alpha traits, excite me sexually and I feel irresistibly drawn to him, but when he needs to, he lets his "nice" side shine and this just makes me completely adore him. It makes me want to be his fuck slut, have his babies, serve him, worship him, do everything I can to make him happy!!! And BTW, all this happened even before we embraced a "Master Slave lifestyle". Three months into our marriage, I knew I was hopelessly hooked. I didn't know why, I didn't even know anything about "BDSM" or "Consensual Slavery" or "D/S",. Swami was never abusive, hardly ever got angry or yelled at me or tyrannize me; just the way he spoke, behaved, carried himself, the skill with which he subtly exerted his domination over me, made my pussy wet for him and my mind fall completely in love with him. And I believe that a lot of the women are like that and have always been like that.
Feminists (they are not really feminists, they are men haters) know all this is true deep down and that is the reason they get mad at submissive women, because these women are defying and exposing the misandry that is deeply entrenched in today's western culture. To divert attention away, these so called feminists characterize the submissive as suffering from some "deep psychological problems". The thought that some woman would embrace and celebrate "a man as the head of household" and submit to him drives them totally up the "proverbial feminist wall". Wasn't feminism supposed to be all about "choices for women?" Can I please please please kiss my husband's feet, kneel before him, cook for him, clean for him, and be his little fuck slut without you pitying and judging me? I don't begrudge you your "I am a single independent woman who doesn't need or want a man" or "I lord over a pussy whipped man" life do I?
The worst part is that now even some men have bought into this drivel. These men that advocate for the "men and women are equal" theory just fail to understand is that, there is something in us women that yearns to just "be taken and dominated" and if a man is unable and/or unwilling to do that, he will just be our "girl friend". This is not to say that all women like to be in a D/S or M/S relationship, but even in a vanilla relationship, if a man does not exhibit alpha traits, most women will not feel attracted to him.
With such different skills, strengths and needs, you cannot swap out one gender for another, or expect that one gender will perform well in another gender's roles. There are obviously exceptions to every rule but exceptions do not disprove the rule! I personally feel that when culture forces men and women to embrace roles that are completely antithetical to our genetic past, we are asking for trouble.
So yes, I strongly believe that Men should be heads of households, and that women should submit to men. I have seen too many cases where violating this precept has brought unhappiness and chaos to marriages and relationships without making either the men or women in such relationships feel fulfilled or satisfied.
Having said that, I also do not advocate that men and women who do not fit or like traditional roles should be ridiculed or frowned upon. So if there is a relationship where a dominant woman and a submissive man form a happy couple, more power to them. I don't believe that these are a majority of relationships but nonetheless, every successful relationship should be celebrated.
All this and more is explored in the following "call in talk show" from Tom Leykis.
Now even Swami rolled his eyes, at some of Tom's comments and language. Swami never addresses women as Bitches, or draws some blanket generalization about "American women" by saying that "he would never date an American woman", or call a woman a "whore" or "dumb broad" outside of sexual play.
As Swami said "The problem with Tom is that in his mind, all his generalizations prove the rule, while any observations on the other side are "exceptions to the rule. That is a pretty weak way to make your point".
But even with all that this program really does address this issue of "Traditional gender roles" in an interesting and entertaining way. Hope you enjoy listening to it.
I know Chutki and I giggled a lot and opened our mouths and our eyes wide in astonishment at some of the conversations :-)
I was even turned on sexually when Tom lit into some of the women in the program and beseeched Swami a few times to pull my hair and set me in my place. That was when Swami smacked me on my ass and left the room!!
Beautifully said. i agree completely. Men and women are not equal, and i will never believe they are. Good for you for stating your believes and never wavering on them. Big hugs beautiful one.
ReplyDeleteThank you dear. Kaneez Chutki has a unique perspective on what feminism has brought down on women in this country. I will ask her to share it here. I feel so sad that women have done this to themselves. This is another reason, why men and women are not equal. We women have a beautiful emotional side, but not all the decisions we make are good for ourselves!!
DeleteLots of hugs and kisses to you too
"Men have generally been breadwinners, protectors and providers for the family. This has generally made them physically stronger, more dominant and naturally polygamous. Feminists hate hearing this, but it is what it is."
ReplyDeleteAwaits the inevitible shit storm this comment makes on the world!
Great post dear.
Giggle
DeleteWhy would a woman who joyously drinks her Master's pee and considers herself lucky for being able to do that, care about a shit storm?
How have you been dear? Good to see you back here. Hugs and Kisses
Didi asked me to share some thoughts on this topic. I feel I have a unique perspective as a young female who is dating in America right now.
ReplyDeleteHere is what feminism has done for American women
1) To correct the wrongs of mistreatment and disenfranchisement of women in this country, feminism started off as a force for just getting women some basic rights like the right to vote etc,
2) To give them more choices, feminism then pushed for the ability of women to easily attend colleges, enter the work force.
3) As more and more women started attending college and entering the workforce, they found out that now they had two jobs, one as the dutiful wife and mother at home and the other as the working women. Most found this dual responsibility overwhelming, because most men stuck to their traditional gender role and made very little effort to contribute in the home.
4) Feminists then started campaigning for a move away from traditional gender roles and trying to shame men into helping their working wives at home. Most married men, did what they could, but most college educated busy women were still dissatisfied as they still did a majority of the work. For these women, a traditional marriage seemed like a bad bargain. Some sued for divorce.
5) As feminists saw more marriages breaking up, they pushed for stronger court protection for women in terms of alimony, child support, how assets were divided in a divorce etc. A lot of these feminists rejoiced as the court system swung in their favor and openly became hostile towards the primary breadwinner's aka men's interests. Now a woman could walk away from a marriage and take the man to the cleaners while she did this. Between paying her divorce lawyers fees, alimony and child support, the divorce courts pretty much ruined a man in a divorce.
More in the next comment, because of Google limitations :-)
6) As the court system became more friendly, more and more dissatisfied women started filing for divorce. Today roughly 70% of the divorces in this country are initiated by women. Women also started getting married later in life. I think the average age for marriage now is around 30 years
Delete7) As men who demanded traditional marriages got hit with divorces and saw their net worth ruined, more and more boys and girls started getting raised by these divorced single women who started teaching these kids neurotic thoughts about what a man should behave like and what a girl should expect from a man.
8) After two decades of this, men have finally caught on to the fact that marriage is a dangerous game for them. Specially the alpha men. These men refuse to get married or get into any long term commitment, since the chances of divorce and financial ruin are very high for them
9) Alpha men now have a field day fucking single women because sex with pretty much no responsibility. Even the new breed of girls raised on unrealistic views of what men should be like are finding these alpha men irresistible, because they are genetically programmed to be attracted to "dominant men"
10) The numbers of these men though are a tiny minority. The large majority of men today are "weak betas" who have been brought up drinking the cool-aid of "men and women are equal". These men don't get laid!! and find that the only way to get sex is through marriage. They marry these women who have already tasted the "alpha" but were discarded by him.
11) But these women who have fucked these alpha men all their young lives enter into marriages with "beta men", they discover that they actually hate these men, even when these men are trying hard to please them, do the house work, take care of the babies, help with the cooking etc because these men cannot satisfy a deep longing in a woman, something she is not even consciously aware of. Eventually the women just can't stand the sight of these "pussified men" and divorce them.
12) Now the cycle continues.
Thank you feminism for ruining it for women in this country. You have managed to drive away the strongest men whom we women crave to spend our lives with, away from marriage, have forced us to give up sex for next to nothing to alpha playboys, filled our heads with nonsensical garbage about gender roles, made it almost inevitable that our kids will be raised in single parent homes thus viciously perpetuating this cycle for another generation.
I feel so frustrated now. Either I find a total alpha playboy who I find irresistible and who will say and do anything to get me to spread my legs, and then after a month or two of banging me, gets bored and leaves for another girl, or a total beta who orbits around me wishing and hoping that I will give him love.
DeleteI simply cannot find a "true dominant" who is willing to stay on in a committed relationship. And the ones that I find like "Maalik" are already married :-(
I am willing to even embrace polygamy to experience love from an "alpha", since I think in this country, "truly alpha men who are willing to commit" should have multiple "wives" to save submissive women like me.
What is a submissive woman to do? I feel like crying.
Oh dear dear Chutki, don't lose hope and please don't cry otherwise I too will start crying!!! Your dream man is surely just around the corner! You are in all my prayers my darling!
DeleteCome home in the afternoon, I will make some special tea with water from the feet of your Maalik and we can talk. You will feel better.
Also see my text message. I spoke to your Maalik about you before he left for work :-)
Dear Daasi,
DeleteThis is me again. I'm very sorry for the comment which offended you so much that you made a whole post about it. Even I believe that men and women should choose whatever role that they wish to and society should not force them to play a particular kind of role. I was only irked by your constant references to Indian culture which has a long, long, longetty long history of abusing, degrading and demeaning women and not allowing them to be the intelligent human beings that they are and not giving them the choice to choose the lifestyle that they want.
Love
Random Soul.
Say hi to your Swami for me.
@Random Soul: Welcome back dear! Nothing wrong in expressing your opinion on a blog darling. Keep doing it. Your views and opinions are as important to the character of this blog as mine. So thank you for speaking your mind.
DeleteNow, you keep bringing up Indian culture and its long history of abusing, degrading and demeaning women. Indian culture is also one of the few cultures where the feminine is still worshiped as the "Divine", so it all depends on your perspective. I will readily admit that Indian culture is largely patriarchal.
But I believe that for many thousands of years, humans have lived and flourished in patriarchal societies. In the last 40 years we have begun a grand experiment in the West and moved away from a patriarchal culture to a "feminist culture". While this culture may have benefited a few women, I believe that "for civilization as a whole", this "feminist culture" has been a complete disaster and we will pay the price for it for decades to come in the form of broken families, weak men, angry men, unhappy and entitled women, and a lot lot more.
I am seeing this trend in India too now. As we move away from traditional or "patriarchal" culture, our divorce rate is spiking. As we embrace some of the "nonsensical" values of "radical feminism" in India, we are starting to see its corrosive effects.
You also bring up an interesting point "giving women the choice to choose the lifestyle they want". This concept of "Choice" as the ultimate marker for freedom is a sacred myth of feminism. I am going to write a blog post about this. Please read and leave comments!
Hugs
Sure, a woman's (or anyone's) life is hers to live as she sees fit. Even when she chooses to give up control to a Master, a woman is still her own Master because she is doing what she personally wants.
DeleteAnd where are you from in India? I live in Delhi :)
I would like to have your email address if you don't mind? Enjoying this discussion and have been reading your blog since last year.
Random Soul.
@Random Soul: Giggle, we think so differently. Hugs. I live in the US now
DeleteI am curious. Are you a man or a woman?